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how about on israel? after the iraq war debacle, the time when the george bush administration turned grief and anger and horror over what happened on 9/11 into a false pretense for attacking a totally unrelated country and starting a war that it took nine years to get out of. ten years on from that unmitigated foreign policy disaster perpetrated by the last republican administration, ten years later, the democrats who went along with that misadventure paid a heavy political price. it's not an accident that so many leading democrats at the time voted to go along with george bush's march to war. it's not an accident that none of them ended up becoming president. it's not an accident that the guy who did become president was the guy who was against the war from the beginning. these are not two unrelated circumstances. the democratic party had a real reckoning about what they got wrong by going along with that bush administration hoax and that disaster perpetrated on the american people. even the press went t
how about on israel? after the iraq war debacle, the time when the george bush administration turned grief and anger and horror over what happened on 9/11 into a false pretense for attacking a totally unrelated country and starting a war that it took nine years to get out of. ten years on from that unmitigated foreign policy disaster perpetrated by the last republican administration, ten years later, the democrats who went along with that misadventure paid a heavy political price. it's not an...
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israel wants to deal. if there's no deal, then as they keep saying, all options are still open. >> martin fletcher reporting from tel aviv, thanks so much. >>> we want to bring in our political panel. we have nationally syndicated radio talk show host and msnbc contributor michael and perry bacon, political editor. yes men, great to have you here. it seems that every president in modern times has had to deal with the tensions that flair up within the middle east. they always try to talk about overseeing a long-term cease-fire. as we should on the brink of those discussions right now, between gaza and israel, what is the broader impact of the idea that not only will there be a cease-fire, but the fact that israel's neighbors will verify their right to exist, which is the longer formatted problem? >> well, yeah, i think we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves. i think the first step is to cease hostilities. i think that the state department has already said that's step one for secretary of state clinton's arriva
israel wants to deal. if there's no deal, then as they keep saying, all options are still open. >> martin fletcher reporting from tel aviv, thanks so much. >>> we want to bring in our political panel. we have nationally syndicated radio talk show host and msnbc contributor michael and perry bacon, political editor. yes men, great to have you here. it seems that every president in modern times has had to deal with the tensions that flair up within the middle east. they always try...
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hillary clinton lands in israel. she's there to broker a truce between israel and hamas. >>> and that was -- was this the best out of the 2012 campaign? ♪ oh beautiful for spacious skies ♪ ♪ for amber waves of grain >> the best and worst political ads and candidates coming up in the shoud sh"sideshow." >>> and let me finish with my advice for the president's second term. i think it's important for him and us. this is "hardball," the place for politics. their name on the door, and their heart into their community. small business saturday is a day to show our support. a day to shop at stores owned by our friends and neighbors. and do our part for the businesses that do so much for us. on november 24th, let's get out and shop small. [ male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but she has some dental issues she's not happy about. so i introduced jill to crest pro-health for life. selected for people over 50. pro-health for life is a toothpaste that defends against tender, inflamed gums, sensitivi
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israel strongly objected to the move, arguing that palestinians must first recognize israel's right to exist before gaining new rights at the u.n. yesterday u.s. ambassador to the u.n., susan rice, said the resolution would only delay the peace process. >> today's unfortunate and counterproductive resolution places further obstacles in the path to peace. today's vote should not be misconstrued by any as constituting eligibility for u.n. membership. it does not. this resolution does not establish that palestine is a state. >> a leading concern for israel is that the palestinians could now use the status to access the u.n.'s international criminal court, pressing it to investigate israel's practices in the occupied territories. >>> in washington, lawmakers are already threatening to cut millions of dollars in aid to the palestinians should they use their new status to go after israel. >>> the united states senate is ready to consider broad new economic sanctions against iran. and they are aimed at choking off that country's energy and shipping sectors that are believed to keep its nuclea
israel strongly objected to the move, arguing that palestinians must first recognize israel's right to exist before gaining new rights at the u.n. yesterday u.s. ambassador to the u.n., susan rice, said the resolution would only delay the peace process. >> today's unfortunate and counterproductive resolution places further obstacles in the path to peace. today's vote should not be misconstrued by any as constituting eligibility for u.n. membership. it does not. this resolution does not...
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with 300 in israel. i'm curious about that calculation, 100 to 300. as you noted in your reporting, the hamas rockets are much less accurate. what is the effect that the air strikes, or the israeli air strikes are having gaza, and militarily speaking, are these two sides on equal footing? >> well, you know, the short answer to that is absolutely not. in fact, the israeli ambassador mentioned that half of the population is in bunkers. well, the entire population of gaza is not in bunkers because they don't have bunkers, and there is no early warning system. the only thing we are hearing right now are the sounds of the israeli drones above, with the possibility they could strike any time. when you talk to palestinians, what they will tell you is they are living in a state of fear, a state of terror. they don't know when these attacks are going to happen. and to add to that point, they are not two equal mill tears fighting side by side. the israeli military is one of the most advanced well equipped militari
with 300 in israel. i'm curious about that calculation, 100 to 300. as you noted in your reporting, the hamas rockets are much less accurate. what is the effect that the air strikes, or the israeli air strikes are having gaza, and militarily speaking, are these two sides on equal footing? >> well, you know, the short answer to that is absolutely not. in fact, the israeli ambassador mentioned that half of the population is in bunkers. well, the entire population of gaza is not in bunkers...
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hillary clinton lands in israel. she's there to broker a truce between israel and hamas. and what could be her last big act before she leaves the stage. for now. >>> and that was -- was this the best out of the 2012 campaign? ♪ oh beautiful for spacious skies ♪ ♪ for amber waves of grain >> the best and worst political ads and candidates coming up in the "sideshow." >>> and let me finish with my advice for the president's second term. i think it's important for him and us. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> okay. >>> okay. so you people are all white, 65 and over, and you live in the sticks, and you are screwing up the republican party because you are believing what i say. this is their explanation for having lost. >> welcome back to "hardball." that was rush limbaugh -- he's a performer -- yesterday telling his audience that so-called reasonable republicans have it wrong. rush is upset because they're calling him one of the problems on the right. but the problem for republicans is that they'll never expand their base if rush is the target audience. let
hillary clinton lands in israel. she's there to broker a truce between israel and hamas. and what could be her last big act before she leaves the stage. for now. >>> and that was -- was this the best out of the 2012 campaign? ♪ oh beautiful for spacious skies ♪ ♪ for amber waves of grain >> the best and worst political ads and candidates coming up in the "sideshow." >>> and let me finish with my advice for the president's second term. i think it's...
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one is israel is a great ally, there's domestic political support for a strong relationship with israel. at the same time it's also supposed to be the kind of neutral arbiter, the mediator in the region that will bring this about. it seems we don't do a good job of playing those two rules. >> well those two roles have also been intentioned, they've grown more intentioned over time. you had eight years of an administration that really gave up on trying to play the arbiter role, at which point the figure leaf kind of came away. the administration did a great job actually tactically, playing both of those roles in a way that they hadn't done at all during the first term, sending the secretary of state out to be the arbiter while the president could give the defender of israel speeches like that that's a tactical solution that doesn't get anywhere near the long-term structural problem that it isn't the same middle east that it was five years ago. what do you do instead? how do you serve the long-term interests of israel, especially when maybe many americans don't see israel's long-term inte
one is israel is a great ally, there's domestic political support for a strong relationship with israel. at the same time it's also supposed to be the kind of neutral arbiter, the mediator in the region that will bring this about. it seems we don't do a good job of playing those two rules. >> well those two roles have also been intentioned, they've grown more intentioned over time. you had eight years of an administration that really gave up on trying to play the arbiter role, at which...
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if you look at this, israel really picked the timing. israel could have gone into a war with hamas almost at any time and found its rocket launches as a pretext. but it chose to do it now. israel has been testing its iron dome defense systems, which would certainly come into play if there was a war with iran. it's been testing the new middle east, testing egypt's stance, forging new relations with rob morrison -- mohamed morsi, seeing how the arab world is post the arab spring. testing hezbollah and testing president obama, who interestingly immediately threw his lot in with israel. the president didn't say we want to call for cessation of hostilities and calm, he said we agree with israel's right to defend itself. israel's real enemy is iran. if remember netanyahu was at the u.n. holding up his bomb chart. he wasn't talking about hamas. he was talking about iran. that is israel's overriding threat. they have been able to deal with hamas pretty handedly. i've seen just yesterday israeli warships able to take out a single hamas militant w
if you look at this, israel really picked the timing. israel could have gone into a war with hamas almost at any time and found its rocket launches as a pretext. but it chose to do it now. israel has been testing its iron dome defense systems, which would certainly come into play if there was a war with iran. it's been testing the new middle east, testing egypt's stance, forging new relations with rob morrison -- mohamed morsi, seeing how the arab world is post the arab spring. testing...
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they have constantly encouraged attacks against israel. iran has played a major role in terms of being the provider of the arsenal that existed there. my guess is they will now try to replenish it because the israelis have stepped back that arsenal in a fairly significant way. >> what about the suggestion that israel was doing all of this and while doing this over the last eight, nine days they were testing out the resources that hamas has and those being supported and supplied by iran? i mean, in that sense did iran play its role? >> well, again, i think we have to put it in some perspective. israel acted because they were not prepared to allow hamas to create what i call a new normal, meaning that you can't have a cease fire and hamas decides or islamist jihad decides they will disrupt whenever they want to. you can't fire rockets on an increasingly shorter interval so that they have their life constantly disrupted. the israelis saw this taking place and hamas was having more involvement in the attacks. the israelis decided they could no
they have constantly encouraged attacks against israel. iran has played a major role in terms of being the provider of the arsenal that existed there. my guess is they will now try to replenish it because the israelis have stepped back that arsenal in a fairly significant way. >> what about the suggestion that israel was doing all of this and while doing this over the last eight, nine days they were testing out the resources that hamas has and those being supported and supplied by iran? i...
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hillary clinton lands in israel. she's there to broker a truce between israel and hamas. and what could be her last big act before she leaves the stage. for now. >>> and that was -- was this the best out of the 2012 campaign? ♪ oh beautiful for spacious skies ♪ ♪ for amber waves of grain >> the best and worst political ads and candidates coming up in the "sideshow." >>> and let me finish with my advice for the president's second term. i think it's important for him and us. this is "hardball," the place for politics. how can you get back pain relief that lasts up to 16 hours? with thermacare heatwraps. thermacare works differently. it's the only wrap with patented heat cells that penetrate deep to relax, soothe, and unlock tight muscles. for up to 16 hours of relief, try thermacare. i'd like to thank eating right, whole grain, multigrain cheerios! mom, are those my jeans? [ female announcer ] people who choose more whole grain tend to weigh less than those who don't. multigrain cheerios >>> okay. so you people are all white, 65 and over, and you live in the sticks, a
hillary clinton lands in israel. she's there to broker a truce between israel and hamas. and what could be her last big act before she leaves the stage. for now. >>> and that was -- was this the best out of the 2012 campaign? ♪ oh beautiful for spacious skies ♪ ♪ for amber waves of grain >> the best and worst political ads and candidates coming up in the "sideshow." >>> and let me finish with my advice for the president's second term. i think it's...
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ultimately israel has to find a way to deal with it either on its own or with us. >> israel has talked about a ship that's loaded with rockets potentially heading to gaza. so is there another crisis brewing? where do we stand with the cease-fire, where both sides seem to be testing each other the last few days? >> i believe the cease-fire in fact is going to hold. if you look at all three parties who were involved in it aside from the united states, who i think did play a pivotal role at the end. president morsi, the last thing he needs is for something he brokered to break down. it enhances his power. he has problems on the inside, he doesn't need a problem on the outside. hamas is claiming they had great achievements. if they get back into a conflict with the israelis, there go those achievements. and the israelis obviously want to have calm as well. so i think all three sides have an interest in preserving this. there will be tests from time to time, that's a given. the fact that the iranians will try to get arms in there very quickly is also a given. i think the israelis will act t
ultimately israel has to find a way to deal with it either on its own or with us. >> israel has talked about a ship that's loaded with rockets potentially heading to gaza. so is there another crisis brewing? where do we stand with the cease-fire, where both sides seem to be testing each other the last few days? >> i believe the cease-fire in fact is going to hold. if you look at all three parties who were involved in it aside from the united states, who i think did play a pivotal...
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israel's right to defend itself. hillary clinton has met with the palestinian leader weather the egyptian president, with the israeli prime minister but not with hamas. that's going to continue to reverberate in the way that the president has dealings with the arab world going forward from this, and that's what they're looking at as they look forward to the next four years. >> the question, can she get this deal done or push it along. >> and she's dealing with a very different set of players. the playing field has changed dramatically. you have an egypt, tunisia that are no longer in the same position vis-a-vis israel. th then you have turkey, too. that's another sort of wild card where the relationship between israel and turkey deteriorated so much from 2010 to today that, you know, the u.s. really is in a position where they really can't take too many steps back from israel because it's more isolated now than it was even two years ago. so it's a complicated situation. i think that if hillary clinton can navigate it
israel's right to defend itself. hillary clinton has met with the palestinian leader weather the egyptian president, with the israeli prime minister but not with hamas. that's going to continue to reverberate in the way that the president has dealings with the arab world going forward from this, and that's what they're looking at as they look forward to the next four years. >> the question, can she get this deal done or push it along. >> and she's dealing with a very different set...
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he immediately said we agree with israel's right to defend itself. israel's real enemy is iran. they were at the u.n. holding up his bomb chart. he was talking about iran. that is israel's overriding threat. they have been able to deal with them handedly. i have seen yesterday israeli warships able to take out a single hamas militant who was sitting in a chair by the water front. so one warship fired a rocket. you could barely ship on the horizon. israel has been telephoning the houses of neighbors of militants and telling them to get out. it has their phone numbers. so there's something suspicious. israel has too much intelligence. they have been able to deal with them too confidently. you have to wonder is there really a different objective. >> could it be better for israel to get rid of the missile sites in hamas before they attack iran? therefore, they can't be used for retaliation? >> reporter: that's an extra bonus. you get to defend your own cities. you figure out how well the iron dome system works, which is an untested system. you set back hamas's capabilities. you test
he immediately said we agree with israel's right to defend itself. israel's real enemy is iran. they were at the u.n. holding up his bomb chart. he was talking about iran. that is israel's overriding threat. they have been able to deal with them handedly. i have seen yesterday israeli warships able to take out a single hamas militant who was sitting in a chair by the water front. so one warship fired a rocket. you could barely ship on the horizon. israel has been telephoning the houses of...
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but israel says it's not a done deal just yet. in a few hours secretary of state hillary clinton is expected to arrive in jerusalem. we'll get live reports from that region. plus, the israeli ambassador to the u.s. and "time" magazine's jim frederick all join me live in moments. oderate to severe plaque psoriasis. i decided enough is enough. ♪ [ spa lady ] i started enbrel. it's clinically proven to provide clearer skin. [ rv guy ] enbrel may not work for everyone -- and may not clear you completely, but for many, it gets skin clearer fast, within 2 months, and keeps it clearer up to 9 months. [ male announcer ] because enbrel®, etanercept, suppresses your immune system, it may lower your ability to fight infections. serious, sometimes fatal, events including infections, tuberculosis, lymphoma, other cancers, and nervous system and blood disorders have occurred. before starting enbrel, your doctor should test you for tuberculosis and discuss whether you've been to a region where certain fungal infections are common. don't start
but israel says it's not a done deal just yet. in a few hours secretary of state hillary clinton is expected to arrive in jerusalem. we'll get live reports from that region. plus, the israeli ambassador to the u.s. and "time" magazine's jim frederick all join me live in moments. oderate to severe plaque psoriasis. i decided enough is enough. ♪ [ spa lady ] i started enbrel. it's clinically proven to provide clearer skin. [ rv guy ] enbrel may not work for everyone -- and may not...
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any more than it's in israel's interests. so -- but these are people who have long been in opposition and they're having to learn to balance these political calculations as they go forward. >> right. and there's no rest after election day when you're the active president. p.j. will stay with us as we turn to another discussion right on point with president obama's foreign policy team. many republicans are attacking ambassador susan rice, a top candidate to replace secretary of state clinton. the senate has spiked some key nominations from president obama before, from elizabeth warren to nobel peace prize winner peter diamond. there is one number that suggests obama is likely to win this battle. we will look at the math after the break on "now." so you say men are superior drivers? yeah. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...safe driving bonus check? every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. ok. [ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in good hands? [ male announcer ] it's that time of year. time for
any more than it's in israel's interests. so -- but these are people who have long been in opposition and they're having to learn to balance these political calculations as they go forward. >> right. and there's no rest after election day when you're the active president. p.j. will stay with us as we turn to another discussion right on point with president obama's foreign policy team. many republicans are attacking ambassador susan rice, a top candidate to replace secretary of state...
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and then israel will stand down. under the current situation, martin, with the prime minister -- israeli prime minister facing elections in january, he has to basically satisfy an unremitting requirement on the part of the israeli population to finally deal hamas a real immortal blow. thank you, gentlemen, both. and their heart into their community. small business saturday is a day to show our support. a day to shop at stores owned by our friends and neighbors. and do our part for the businesses that do so much for us. on november 24th, let's get out and shop small. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. medicare open enrollment. time to compare plans and costs. you don't have to make changes. but it never hurts to see if you can find better coverage, save money, or both. and check out the preventive benefits you get after the health care law. ♪ open enrollment ends december 7th. so now's the time. visit medicare.gov or call 1-800-medicare. but i'm still stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doe
and then israel will stand down. under the current situation, martin, with the prime minister -- israeli prime minister facing elections in january, he has to basically satisfy an unremitting requirement on the part of the israeli population to finally deal hamas a real immortal blow. thank you, gentlemen, both. and their heart into their community. small business saturday is a day to show our support. a day to shop at stores owned by our friends and neighbors. and do our part for the...
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presses for a ceasefire between israel and hamas. it's a delicate balancing act for the new egyptian leader who was swept to power at the backing of the muslim brother who had who has historically been an ally of hamas. jim maceda joins us from cairo. to me this is the most fascinating subplot within the tension between israel and hamas, the role of egypt. what is mohamed morsi's role in all of this and is there any sense of agreement from the egyptians they're trying to help ease the tension? we know president obama has been on the phone with mohamed morsi constantly over the last 48 hours. >> reporter: hi there, luke. we'll get more of an idea after secretary of state clinton meets with president morsi. she is just wrapping up that meeting. she is then going to see the foreign minister here and then give a press conference. hopefully in terms of the agreement, the second part of your question, we'll be getting some answers. in terms of morsi's role, as you say, he's a key mediator here. and if he emerges with a deal, there's no que
presses for a ceasefire between israel and hamas. it's a delicate balancing act for the new egyptian leader who was swept to power at the backing of the muslim brother who had who has historically been an ally of hamas. jim maceda joins us from cairo. to me this is the most fascinating subplot within the tension between israel and hamas, the role of egypt. what is mohamed morsi's role in all of this and is there any sense of agreement from the egyptians they're trying to help ease the tension?...
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israel doesn't want to do that. they want to pair up the old agreements that says are necessary to restrict the flow of goods goo gaza, to restrict the e flow of weapons and israel believes in you allow more products to come into gaza, there will be more weapons coming in and israel is positioned thus far -- stop firing rockets and then with hamas about some of these other things like the trade restrictions. >> we're having a little trouble with your uplink in terms of you jumping in and out of your question. let me ask about secretary of state hillary clinton arriving in the region. what are the best hopes and expectations for what she's going to be able to do? is she going to change anything in terms of the balance of power and how this is likely to be resolved? >> it depends if she can convince the egyptians to convince hamas. they feel confident because the arab spring has given it a new batch of friends. if hillary clinton can pressure hamas and can be persuaded by mohamed morsi her chances are pretty good. if
israel doesn't want to do that. they want to pair up the old agreements that says are necessary to restrict the flow of goods goo gaza, to restrict the e flow of weapons and israel believes in you allow more products to come into gaza, there will be more weapons coming in and israel is positioned thus far -- stop firing rockets and then with hamas about some of these other things like the trade restrictions. >> we're having a little trouble with your uplink in terms of you jumping in and...
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>> you know, israel and egypt fought wars in the past. we fought bloody wars and people on both sides lost their lives in 1948 and 1956 and 1967 and again in 1973. in the late 1970s we signed a peace treaty with israel that has brought peace to the border, and i think that's in the interests of both countries to keep that peace treaty. that's in the israeli interests and the egyptian interests. we have hamas that shares a common border with egypt and israel, and we think both sides have an interest to make sure that mass and the other extremists in gaza don't stir up trouble. don't cause friction. don't create violence. and i think we and the egyptians work together on keeping the peace and on trying to make sure the terrorists don't dictate the agenda. >> mark, suggestions that this past eight, nine days was a practice run, if you will, for any faw tour confrontation, testing, identifying hamas' capabilities, is that true enough? and if so, what did you learn? >> well, first of all, we know the rockets that were fired at tel aviv and jer
>> you know, israel and egypt fought wars in the past. we fought bloody wars and people on both sides lost their lives in 1948 and 1956 and 1967 and again in 1973. in the late 1970s we signed a peace treaty with israel that has brought peace to the border, and i think that's in the interests of both countries to keep that peace treaty. that's in the israeli interests and the egyptian interests. we have hamas that shares a common border with egypt and israel, and we think both sides have...
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israel intercepted them. an earlier hamas rocket hit a home. >>> ban ki moon will arrive for talks on a cease fire. arab league delegation is set to arrive in gaza on tuesday. let's go to israel. we have a live report from tel aviv. when did you last hear the warning sirens? has it been quite since the one we heard with you an hour ago? >> it was a little over an hour ago and the second time the city heard the sirens. two were fired from gaza heading to tel aviv and they were intercepted by israel's iron dome missile defense system. this is a system the israeli defense forces have been using with great success over the last five days. they say they have shot down or intercepted a third of the rockets that have been lobbied from gaza toward israel. today was no exception. we saw that in the night sky here in tel aviv. >> okay. any update on the cease fire talks that you can report, stephanie? >> at the moment, we know they are underway in cairo. egypt is leading them and you have representatives from the pales
israel intercepted them. an earlier hamas rocket hit a home. >>> ban ki moon will arrive for talks on a cease fire. arab league delegation is set to arrive in gaza on tuesday. let's go to israel. we have a live report from tel aviv. when did you last hear the warning sirens? has it been quite since the one we heard with you an hour ago? >> it was a little over an hour ago and the second time the city heard the sirens. two were fired from gaza heading to tel aviv and they were...
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and in to israel in general. the other issues may not necessarily be involved hamas but the egyptians and the smuggling of weapons in to the gaza strip and more often than not go through the sinai peninsula and egypt's territorial waters and probably pressure on egypt to deliver and secure that smuggling route so that weapons don't end up in hamas' hand. that's what they brought to the table. certainly hamas would only do so with assurances that israel going to stop assassination of the leaders and easing of the blockade and we understand issues discussed perhaps in coming days or weeks. it is really -- it goes back to a central issue, this buys time for the people of did za in terms of attacks and doesn't address the larger issue of gaza in context of the ongoing israeli-palestinian conflict and something people say has to be addressed, part of a larger picture. not an isolated one. >> thanks so much. >>> we want to go to tel aviv and correspondent stephanie gosk joins me. as you were hearing in the reporting, u
and in to israel in general. the other issues may not necessarily be involved hamas but the egyptians and the smuggling of weapons in to the gaza strip and more often than not go through the sinai peninsula and egypt's territorial waters and probably pressure on egypt to deliver and secure that smuggling route so that weapons don't end up in hamas' hand. that's what they brought to the table. certainly hamas would only do so with assurances that israel going to stop assassination of the leaders...
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would say if 700 rockets hit you, israel has a right to self-defense. if this gets out of hand, you have a new government in egypt that shares some roots, some political roots, with hamas but doesn't want to wreck its relationship with us. you have the situation in syria that is so violent and i think israel knows that it wants to be careful not to let this out of hand. and so maybe this three party, i agree with martin, this three-party agreement could be very important and maybe a sign that in his second term president obama is going to get more engaged in the peace process. there has been talk of sending president clinton as a mideast envoy. i thought that was an intriguing idea. but at least i think this is -- these are all very good signs for the situation. >> e.j., stay with us, and martin fletcher, thanks to you. i want to bring in senator chris koonce. senator, good morning. >> good morning 0, chris. >> the senate did unanimously pass that resolution standing by israel, something you co-response arored. what do you think hillary clinton brings t
would say if 700 rockets hit you, israel has a right to self-defense. if this gets out of hand, you have a new government in egypt that shares some roots, some political roots, with hamas but doesn't want to wreck its relationship with us. you have the situation in syria that is so violent and i think israel knows that it wants to be careful not to let this out of hand. and so maybe this three party, i agree with martin, this three-party agreement could be very important and maybe a sign that...
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israel's convinced they'll find natural causes. sorry. >> i was just saying, you and i remember, you better than anyone, from being there, and i remember covering the funeral, that there had been a lot of talk about arafat's being ill, his weakness, about his leadership, but it really is fascinating that in the intervening years and intervening eight years, the palestinians have divided between hamas and fatah more critically and really is a vacuum of leadership. >> no, that's right. no, you and i were at the funeral together, i remember it well. there is a vacuum of leadership -- what a day it was, absolutely. what a frenzy of mourning. it was amazing in those scenes at the time. yeah, you know there's a vacuum of leadership in one sense, hamas -- the split is what counts among the palestinians since then. hamas, of course, is completely taken over the gaza trip and has strong support in the west bank and the west bank is also by the way a strong leader in the west bank in terms of keeping his leadership position. by the way, we'l
israel's convinced they'll find natural causes. sorry. >> i was just saying, you and i remember, you better than anyone, from being there, and i remember covering the funeral, that there had been a lot of talk about arafat's being ill, his weakness, about his leadership, but it really is fascinating that in the intervening years and intervening eight years, the palestinians have divided between hamas and fatah more critically and really is a vacuum of leadership. >> no, that's...
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then israel would want to move to a second stage where the two sides, israel and the palestinians, would engage in this discussions, negotiations overs the next two weeks to one month talking about potentially ending the siege on gaza, making it easier for palestinians -- >> and clearly we're having difficulty with richard's reporting. surmounts any difficult of technology. richard is reporting on negotiations in cairo -- amman, you're in gaza as well. negotiations would be a immediate cessation of hostilities and a two-stage process within two weeks to a month there would be a broader agreement. we've known from the start that israel wants to do something about changing the reality where these rocket attacks do not continue to come from gaza. at the same time where you're standing in gaza there's a lot of criticism about the counterfire that's come from israel and the way they've been targeting areas that are very dense civilian areas. >> that's correct. in fact a lot of people have been describing it as two types. one it's a disproportionate use of force and more importantly a form of
then israel would want to move to a second stage where the two sides, israel and the palestinians, would engage in this discussions, negotiations overs the next two weeks to one month talking about potentially ending the siege on gaza, making it easier for palestinians -- >> and clearly we're having difficulty with richard's reporting. surmounts any difficult of technology. richard is reporting on negotiations in cairo -- amman, you're in gaza as well. negotiations would be a immediate...
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made israel feel moderate and the arabs feel realistic. the second piece of good news is that egypt, even under the muslim brotherhood, has an interest in having stability. that's very important. the bad news is the islamists are in control. in the palestinian areas with hamas and certainly in control in egypt. and there's going to be no peace as long as they are there in control, and u.s. policy has got to be a long, gradual process of trying to build up the non-islamists in the arab world, including in iran, across the region. >> that frames it. we'll hear more from you in the roundtable. >>> now let me turn to carl levin, chairman of course of the armed services committee in the senate. senator, to egypt. how concerned are you? is morsi a partner of the united states, or a problem? >> yes. >> he's both? >> some of both, yeah. but even though there's great concern, i think we have to be very cautious. we don't obviously want to see a democratically elected autocrat take the place of an undemocratically elected dictator. on the other hand
made israel feel moderate and the arabs feel realistic. the second piece of good news is that egypt, even under the muslim brotherhood, has an interest in having stability. that's very important. the bad news is the islamists are in control. in the palestinian areas with hamas and certainly in control in egypt. and there's going to be no peace as long as they are there in control, and u.s. policy has got to be a long, gradual process of trying to build up the non-islamists in the arab world,...
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israel's capital. for the first time as you mentioned. actually it was the first time since 1970 that jerusalem has been under that -- some kind of attack in that way. so the israelis are concerned about that. tel aviv was also hit for the second time in two days. the violence is ramping up. israel's trying to destroy the palestinian's rocket firing capability. but clearly not succeeding yet. and that raises the possibility that the ground invasion really may happen which, by the way, i'm sure neither israel nor hamas really wants. >> martin very quickly. understand that the israeli military is so well organized they can launch an invasion with one hour's notice? >> i'm not sure who said that but they're ready. we were on the border yesterday with israelis with the tank brigade. they're ready. we saw them clean the barrels, taking orders, last-minute preparations. yeah, they're ready. the israeli army says they're ready to invade. they're just waiting for the order. the political establishment now needs to decide what to do. how to bring
israel's capital. for the first time as you mentioned. actually it was the first time since 1970 that jerusalem has been under that -- some kind of attack in that way. so the israelis are concerned about that. tel aviv was also hit for the second time in two days. the violence is ramping up. israel's trying to destroy the palestinian's rocket firing capability. but clearly not succeeding yet. and that raises the possibility that the ground invasion really may happen which, by the way, i'm sure...
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schools, however, still empty in the south of israel. they were all closed for a week. those within 40 kilometers of gaza, in case of rockets. and they're still closed while israel is looking at this cease-fire to see whether indeed it will be enforced. it's not only israel, the egyptian government, the u.s., everyone has invested in keeping the peace. but the peace that has been agreed so far between israel and hamas, is just peace -- let me put it this way, quiet for quiet. a lot still needs to are worked out to make sure that the cease-fire holds, alex. >> okay. martin fletcher, thank you very much, live for us from tel aviv. >>> a stern warning from one of the nation's top ceos, to lawmakers about the fiscal cliff. ceo of goldman sachs says what's in this deal is less important than just getting a deal done. >> going over the fiscal cliff, it will be very bad, hugely negative for the stock market, which is, you know, a source of people's wealth. people will feel poor. if we go over for a short period of time and adjust it, we can repair some of those things. but wha
schools, however, still empty in the south of israel. they were all closed for a week. those within 40 kilometers of gaza, in case of rockets. and they're still closed while israel is looking at this cease-fire to see whether indeed it will be enforced. it's not only israel, the egyptian government, the u.s., everyone has invested in keeping the peace. but the peace that has been agreed so far between israel and hamas, is just peace -- let me put it this way, quiet for quiet. a lot still needs...
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how do you serve israel when many americans don't see israel's long term interest as they do. we are not talking about the hundreds of people who died in syria over the time of gaza. we have a long -- you know, the administration did a great job on the short term, but we have a long term problem that our political system won't let us figure out. >> picking up on what heather is saying it poses a test for the obama administration and the trons formation in the middle east. you see it in the fascinating relationship between president obama and morsi. two pragmatists trying to find a way to mediate this immediate conflict. you see it against the backdrop of an islamist backdrop of turkey and the riots in jordan that will cause increasing problems. you have that changing environment which you know more about. the arabs need something different. the governments need to be more responsive to their people. it's an opening for a different relationship. no american president is going to criticize, i would argue, israel's launching of this war. it is an opening for our relationship with
how do you serve israel when many americans don't see israel's long term interest as they do. we are not talking about the hundreds of people who died in syria over the time of gaza. we have a long -- you know, the administration did a great job on the short term, but we have a long term problem that our political system won't let us figure out. >> picking up on what heather is saying it poses a test for the obama administration and the trons formation in the middle east. you see it in...
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it's changing by the minute out of israel. this morning israeli tv reporting three israelis were killed in rocket strikes in the southern part of the country. this comes as the israeli military has launched an aggressive new campaign to cripple hamas after repeated rocket attacks. as many as 750 this year, they say, launched from gaza into southern israel. last night president obama spoke on the phone with prime minister benjamin netanyahu acknowledging israel's right to defend itself but also urging him to not have civilian casualties. this youtube video showing an air strike yesterday killing the top military commander of hamas. it was part of a widespread campaign against targets that the israeli military says it will broaden in the coming days. this morning defense forces dropped leaflets over gaza warning residents to stay away from hamas operatives. on twitter, a clear message from israeli defense forces. quote, we recommend that no hamas operatives, whether low level or senior leaders, show their faces above ground in t
it's changing by the minute out of israel. this morning israeli tv reporting three israelis were killed in rocket strikes in the southern part of the country. this comes as the israeli military has launched an aggressive new campaign to cripple hamas after repeated rocket attacks. as many as 750 this year, they say, launched from gaza into southern israel. last night president obama spoke on the phone with prime minister benjamin netanyahu acknowledging israel's right to defend itself but also...
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this was something president obama initiated in israel. was there really going to be daylight between israel and president obama? absolutely none. so iran going forward had to think, do i want to take a chance on there being any daylight going forward? it was a test here. incidentally, they thought would egypt advocate the peace treaty over this? it didn't happen. all the things forecast during the campaign were put to a very specific concrete test. and every claim that governor romney made was absolutely shown to be unwarranted. >> okay. i'm supposed to go, but i'm going to give you 15 seconds to respond. >> as of today, richard is correct, but the jewish population supported romney. he must have believed that romney was better, but it is done. the presidential race is over and hopefully the president can broker real peace. real republicans need to stand behind him and hope he's able to do that. >> happy thanksgiving. >>> here at home the american thanksgiving tradition is in full swing. up next, we are live at the macy's thanksgiving day
this was something president obama initiated in israel. was there really going to be daylight between israel and president obama? absolutely none. so iran going forward had to think, do i want to take a chance on there being any daylight going forward? it was a test here. incidentally, they thought would egypt advocate the peace treaty over this? it didn't happen. all the things forecast during the campaign were put to a very specific concrete test. and every claim that governor romney made was...
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and israel are going to be confronting iran together, as they always do. prime minister netanyahu did some extraordinary in this campaign which was to kind of almost offer a tacit -- maybe not tacit -- almost explicit endorsement of mitt romney. what do you think the current state of relations is post-election and what effect that might have, if any, on how the iranian thing plays out? >> let me take a first shot at that. i don't think that the u.s., that president obama, will get us involved in israel's elections, which are scheduled at the end of january as prime minister netanyahu seemed to many u.s. observers to do in the case of the u.s. i hear from my israeli political analyst friends that prime minister netanyahu really does have a problem going towards these january elections in that he is seen as having put at risk the most valuable, crucial national security asset that israel has, which is its close relationship with the united states regardless of who's in power. he did seem to many israelis to lean toward mitt romney, to lean toward adelson, mi
and israel are going to be confronting iran together, as they always do. prime minister netanyahu did some extraordinary in this campaign which was to kind of almost offer a tacit -- maybe not tacit -- almost explicit endorsement of mitt romney. what do you think the current state of relations is post-election and what effect that might have, if any, on how the iranian thing plays out? >> let me take a first shot at that. i don't think that the u.s., that president obama, will get us...
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and israel that were desperately trying to have this vote today not happen. so that we would not to be shown to be so isolated in the world in terms of our country's perspective and the israeli perspective on this issue. the u.s. knew that the vote would look this lopsided which is why we did not want the vote to happen, but it happened anyway and it happened just like we knew it would. now what? also on your plate, after president obama took his big historic trip to burma this month, the first time a u.s. president has ever visited burma, the burmese government today attacked their own people using what is being described as incendiary devices to break up a protest of buddhist monks in their iconic flowing robes. also while you're spinning the chore wheel about what america should do in the world today, consider the egyptian president who was the go-between for us on trying to shut down the war between israel and gaza this month, the first thing the egyptian president did after getting that cease-fire was assign himself new dictatorial powers that he said co
and israel that were desperately trying to have this vote today not happen. so that we would not to be shown to be so isolated in the world in terms of our country's perspective and the israeli perspective on this issue. the u.s. knew that the vote would look this lopsided which is why we did not want the vote to happen, but it happened anyway and it happened just like we knew it would. now what? also on your plate, after president obama took his big historic trip to burma this month, the first...
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obviously, israel which is having already a grave concerns as we do about, for example, movements of chemical weapons that might occur in such a chaotic atmosphere and that could have an impact not just within syria but on the region as a whole. i'm encouraging to see that the syrian opposition created an umbrella group that may have more cohesion than they have had in the past. we're going to be talking to them. my enjoys will be traveling to, you know, various meetings that are going to be taking place with the international community and opposition. we consider them a legitimate representative of the aspirations of the syrian people. we're not yet prepared to recognize them as some sort of government in exile. but we do think that it is a broad-based representative group. one of the questions that we're going to continue to press is making sure that that opposition is committed to a democratic syria, an inclusive syria, a moderate syria. we have seen extremist elements insinuate themselves in to the opposition. and, you know, one of the things that we have to be on guard about, pa
obviously, israel which is having already a grave concerns as we do about, for example, movements of chemical weapons that might occur in such a chaotic atmosphere and that could have an impact not just within syria but on the region as a whole. i'm encouraging to see that the syrian opposition created an umbrella group that may have more cohesion than they have had in the past. we're going to be talking to them. my enjoys will be traveling to, you know, various meetings that are going to be...
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i was really pleased to see prime minister netanyahu meet with our ambassador to israel to underscore how important the relationship is between the united states and israel, emphasizing the close security cooperation that we've had significantly and consistently, and we're going to work together to continue to make sure that iran is never allowed to obtain a nuclear weapon. that's going to be critical. >> real quickly, while we have you here, on a more personal note, it is an important day for your good friend gabby giffords, who along with her husband, is going to confront the man who shot her in court when he appears, that is, jared loughner appears for sentencing less than one hour from now. mark kelly preparing to address jared loughner on behalf of their family. this is according to politico. have you spoken to gabby giffords about her feelings about today? >> actually, i spoke with mark yesterday. i think today is going to be the first and last time that gabby will have an opportunity -- gabby and mark will have an opportunity to be in the same room as her attacker. it's an oppo
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. >>> also today, israel says the u.n. vote recognizing palestine as a state is, quote, meaningless. the general assembly voted overwhelmingly yesterday 138-9 to give palestine status as a nonmember observer state. the united states voted against that resolution, but the new status means palestinians will have access to international bodies which could make it easier to challenge israel's occupation, as they say, in the west bank. how much is your current phone bill? four sixteen seventy six a month! okay, come with me -- we're gonna save you money. with straight talk at walmart, you get unlimited talk, text and data for only $45 a month per phone. would we get the same coverage? same coverage on america's best networks. you saved $146.76 by switching to straight talk. awesome! now you can afford to share your allowance with me. get the season's hottest smartphones like the samsung galaxy s2 and get straight talk with unlimited data for just $45 a month -- from america's gift headquarters. walmart. ♪ why use temporary tr
. >>> also today, israel says the u.n. vote recognizing palestine as a state is, quote, meaningless. the general assembly voted overwhelmingly yesterday 138-9 to give palestine status as a nonmember observer state. the united states voted against that resolution, but the new status means palestinians will have access to international bodies which could make it easier to challenge israel's occupation, as they say, in the west bank. how much is your current phone bill? four sixteen...